Possible issue with BLR Tech casinos craps software

[Eliot Jacobson]

Greetings,

I would like to draw this forum's attention to a thread over at Wizard of Vegas, regarding the software created by BLR Tech, and used by online casinos such as "World Wide Wagering." The thread is investigating a possible issue with fairness of their craps software. A user created videos of several sessions using this software. Those videos demonstrate a strong likelihood of bias in the software against the user.

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambl...-of-3200-wins/

The investigation is ongoing.

Kind regards,

Eliot

[binary128]

clempops4, the thread initiator at tWoV, was amazingly persistent, and inspirationally diligent, in his attempts to get the forum's statisticians around to his side of the blackboard. But I was truly astounded at the amount of data that he included in several of his posts, and the trouble to which he went to put all of this on video and move it all up to youtube. Fortunately, boymimbo went to the time and trouble to go through all of those videos and extract workable data.

The amount of hard work, and data, that is being displayed here is just huge.

To me, the water is still a little muddy. The working solution - "OK, you found it, now exploit it!":

With that data, $1 don't + $6 each 6 and 8 always working yields -56 on the line, +356 on the place bets, net +300. Go for it.

is fantastic.

But, it is early days. It will be interesting in how this all plays out, especially given the statistics-savvy crew on that forum. (I can tell you, I wouldn't want the team of DorothyGale and boymimbo on my trail if I were the perpetrator of some crime.)

I had never heard of BLR Technologies before. The specific Sportsbook/Casino in question, World Wide Wagering, has a B rating on SportsbookReview, which isn't bad. However, BLR Tech is also powering the Casino product for the sportsbook Legends, which, with an SBR A+ rating, is one of the top books in the world.

I'm wondering - who is watching this tWoV thread? BLR Tech? World Wide Wagering? Legends?

The issue has already made one migration, from tWoV to Casinomeister. Perhaps a more valuable migration, from clempops4's perspective, might be from tWoV to SportsbookReview.

I suspect that the Casino for World Wide Wagering is on very the edge of their radar screen. It's entirely possible that World Wide Wagering is not even aware of Casinomeister, or tWoV.

Chris

[Eliot Jacobson]

The evidence is now overwhelming that the BLR Tech craps software is rogue. Details will come out soon. In the mean time, I advise not playing at any casino that runs their software.

[binary128]

The evidence is now overwhelming that the BLR Tech craps software is rogue. Details will come out soon. In the mean time, I advise not playing at any casino that runs their software.

I just saw the latest posts on tWoV thread. Agreed; pretty overwhelming.

If someone here can start a thread on SportsbookReview about this issue, then I think that this would be an appropriate thing to do. As I mentioned, the current users of this software may not even be aware that Casinomeister exists. I think it is safe to say that they know of SportsbookReview.

[DarkMage]

I have played very little on this software but I blown maybe $200-300 on it over the past year.

At the time I just shrugged it off as bad luck and never returned but now that the software is in question I will absolutely not stand for being cheated.

I have fired off an email to the sportsbook using this software that I used and will continue to go from there.


I can accept to LOSE I will not accept being CHEATED

Even if it was for a small amount of money...I don't care

[bb28]

Here is some info I found. Link here.

Hope it's ok to copy and paste because it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't disappear.

BLR TECHNOLOGIES, INC.


BLR Technologies offers a gaming platform featuring sports and casino software. The sports software offers a variety of bet types and sporting events. The casino software is integrated with BLR Sports, but also has a stand alone solution with its own management tools and features. The casino client enables any interface which supports XML Communication including cell phones, handhelds, pocket pcs, etc. Available games include a variety of video poker games, card games, table games, slots and a progressive jackpot on Caribbean Poker.
See the Online Casino City listing for BLR Technologies, Inc.


Products and Services
Games Software > Sportsbook Software
BLR Sportsbook provides a complete system which encompasses all aspects needed to develop and operate a sports wagering website or business. It is very easy for your customers to navigate trough all the types of sports offered and place wagers on their favorite teams, access their plays for the day and check their balances. BLR Tech also provides a complete management system that allows you as a bookmaker to have complete control of your organization whether it is line moving or creating reports to analyze betting and player performance.
Games Software > Racebook Software
BLR Racebook allows you to take wagers on most of North American Tracks, Australian Tracks and other major horse events, and supports all the following types of bets: straight bets (win/place/show), quinellas, exactas (box and keyed) trifectas, superfectas, daily doubles, pick’s and parlays. The Internet user will find that introducing multiple wagers within one ticket is solely a BLR racebook function, keeping always simplicity in mind our wagering interface allows the horse bettor to easily check their selections and place bets just like they would do at the track.
Games Software > Casino Software
BLR Casino software offers you and your players all major casino games such as: Blackjack, Pai Gow Poker, Baccarat, Three card poker, American Roulette, Craps, Slot machines and Video Poker. Our casino solutions are engineered to perform at great speed and accuracy. BLR Casino provides a comprehensive backend reporting system, including current player games and hands; log-in information and pending game information. We have invested all of our efforts on creating the most visually spectacular and distinctive flash based gaming interface. We offer a multiple selection of skin designs for you to choose from.

Headquarters
Physical Address: Mailing Address:
Centro Comercial Plaza Mayor
2da Etapa 3er Piso, Rohrmoser
Pavas, San José
Costa Rica
PO Box 2040-2050
San Pedro, San José
Costa Rica

Phone: +506 2 210 7980
Fax: +506 2 210 7985
Website: www.blrtech.com
Email: [email protected]

Upper Management: Mr. Javier Pereira, Chief Executive Officer
[email protected]
Marketing: Mr. Andrew Leetz, International Business Development
[email protected]

Additional Information
Date Established: August, 1998
Slot Games Offered by BLR Technologies, Inc.
Alien Abduction Kingdom of Poseidon Roman Colosseum
Caribbean Island Monster Truck Spaceship Battle
Gold Fever Ninja Attack Super Nova
Great Circus Red Planet The Maya's Secret
Jurassic Adventure Robot Escape Treasure of the Nile

Gaming Sites Using BLR Technologies, Inc. Software
5Dimes Casino and Sportsbook Legends Sports World Wide Wagering
Heritage Sports Loose Lines Casino and Sportsbook

[boymimbo]

Of the five casinos listed, I can only confirm that LEGENDS and WORLD-WIDE WAGERING are using BLR software. Heritage requires a login while the other two sites appear to not be using this software anymore.

[DarkMage]

Throw Legendz Sportsbook&Casino into the pit Mr.Casinomeister

this is an email I got back from them

Unfortunately the people who starts this threads are not people like yourself that accept losing and spread their guilt for their irresponsible gaming in the most irresponsible way.

[boymimbo]

The Wizard himself ran a sample of runs using real money and completed a statistical analysis on the results. There are live videos from the OP over at WOV that confirms the results now for more than 700 comeout rolls. DorothyG and I both ran statistical analysis on the OP's results. This is NOT bad luck. The results have been repeated and the sample sizes have been substantial enough to prove beyond any reasonable amount that there is a problem.

On DON'T PASS:
We're talking about 52 come out 3s on 2,600 come out rolls. The expected value is 148.6. And 528 7s (expected value 445). On the numbers, the points were made 60% on the 4 (EV 33.3%), 68% on the 5 and 9 (EV 40%), 71% on the 6 (EV 45.4%), 70% on the 8 (EV 45.4%), and 58% on the 10 (EV 33.3%). And this is over 1,813 come out rolls. All videod, all confirmable, and all statistically next to impossible in a fair game.

PASS Line:
On 600 come out rolls, there were 45 sevens (expected value 100), and 54 3s (Expected 33.33). On the numbers, the points were made 9 times in 59 samples on the 10 and 5 times in 40 samples on the 10. The 6 and 8 were made 44 times in 175 samples. Once again, all videod, confirmable and statistically next to impossible in a fair game.

The Wizard of Vegas site gets plenty of claims of bad luck all of the time and usually, an analysis confirms that the sample size was too small to confirm anything. In this case, the math experts (I am not really one of them) have weighed in and confirmed that the result sets show an undeniable and obvious bias.

I have no interest in any of the sportsbooking sites. I have no memberships to any online casino and haven't made a single wager online in my lifetime. Online casinos should be making enough money on their casinos through edge alone and shouldn't be cheating its users.

[Eliot Jacobson]

I posted this on WoV and am re-posting it here.

I have a cash account on a casino that runs the BLR Tech software.

I first ran 100 rolls on the DON’T; my results were consistent that I was playing a rigged version.

I decided to create a simple test to force the software to exhibit an extreme bias. I exclusively played the pass line. If a point was established, I then bought every number 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, meaning that a 7 was the killer number to get if the software was rogue.

In 100 rolls, I established a point on 74 of them. After establishing a point, the first roll was a “7” on 41 out of those 74 points. The expected number is 12.33 with a standard deviation of 3.21, putting this result 8.94 standard deviations above expectation.

Out of the total of 135 rolls made once a point was established, 63 of them were “7”. The expected number is 22.5 with a standard deviation of 4.33, putting this 9.35 standard deviations above expectation, or about 1-in-4500000000000000000000.

A chi-squared test on the distribution of rolls after the come out gave a result that was 1-in-1.42x10^14.

I strongly advise not playing at any casino that operates this software.

I lost about $300 in 100 rolls playing this strategy, at $1 per wager + $1 buy bets.